Croudsource Petition to Seperate DarkMatter from Phoenix OS

WHAT WOULD YOU CHOSE ?

  • Android 10 Bliss OS as Base for DarkMatter

  • Shitty Chinese Phoenix OS Base for our beloved DarkMatter

  • Make a Base directly From Android Source code Released by Google


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Mr_Kat

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@Mr_Kat Already all android x86 distributes have supersu access.
Octupus need superuser acces for use mouse properly.
As i know android 10 not have native bridge yet, but i am not follow it.

About octupus, You launch your games from octupus or from launcher?
Android 10 version of Bliss OS has arm Support (copied directly from Chrome OS)

About Octopus :-
I have only tried launching via octopus app. Not sure that octopus will autostart when running game from launcher.
 

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Android 10 version of Bliss OS has arm Support (copied directly from Chrome OS)

About Octopus :-
I have only tried launching via octopus app. Not sure that octopus will autostart when running game from launcher.
That's the problem, start the same app both normally and via octupus.

You will find that both are independent of each other
 

Mr_Kat

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That's the problem, start the same app both normally and via octupus.

You will find that both are independent of each other
No, that happens only when using octopus in non root mode.

In root mode it doesn't do any emulation, it runs directly as a overlay.

You need to enable Root mode (named as "Advanced Mode" in octopus) in octopus settings. Then it becomes same as Phoenix OS Keymapper.
 

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No, that happens only when using octopus in non root mode.

In root mode it doesn't do any emulation, it runs directly as a overlay.

You need to enable Root mode (named as "Advanced Mode" in octopus) in octopus settings. Then it becomes same as Phoenix OS Keymapper.
So you mean, you can launch game with launcher, right?
 

Mr_Kat

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So you mean, you can launch game with launcher, right?
I mean that in root mode octopus *doesn't* create a container for app.

It runs directly on normal app.

So the game data remains same whether you launch from launcher or from octopus.


I was just saying that i am not sure about whether octopus will automatically start when game is launched from launcher.

Maybe it has autostart feature or maybe you will have to start octopus service manually from app.
 

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So you mean, you can launch game with launcher, right?
I mean that in root mode octopus *doesn't* create a container for app.

It runs directly on normal app.

So the game data remains same whether you launch from launcher or from octopus.


I was just saying that i am not sure about whether octopus will automatically start when game is launched from launcher.

Maybe it has autostart feature or maybe you will have to start octopus service manually from app.
To be sure, can you try launch from octupus and from launcher, at the same time?, i pretty sure you will get 2 windows for same game.
 

xtttt

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You can just use octopus after installing supersu
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Phoenix OS uses Octopus Keymapper in Root Mode !!

If supersu is available then octopus runs directly just like on phenix os. It doesn't make seperate data for emulation when root acess is provided !!

Octopus and panda are almost same, and use exact same app gui, and both works without creating seperate app data when root acess is provided !!
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Bliss OS (android 10) also has Arm Support.

And Android 11 will come with arm support Directly from Google
@ilhan He havent read anything, the bliss os xda thread, and he is also like dante (dante says chrome os is arm and android x86 combination)
Phoenix os doesnt use octopus in root mode, it has the keymapper integrated to system ui, decompile and reverse engineer framewaorks and you will understand. Many people think its the game helper apk or octopus which is keymapper, but its only a switch.
Octopus performance is slow and laggy because it isnt integrated into system ui like phoenix os which is high performance, darkmatter developers would have already done it if they could.
Bliss os android 10 doesnt have arm support, the bliss os developer always keep shouting at noobs who dont read the post and keep saying these- their games dont work, arm not working, and no keymapper.
Android 11 has no arm support, In fact no android version has arm support, google dont provide any arm translation in stock AOSP. Its the amazing android x86 developers who take houdini native bridge from intel and integrate it to android x86.
Bliss OS 14 based on android 11 needs a lot more work, for example only kernel 5.8 works with it
It doesnt use houdini, it uses the new arm translator from android studio images, some arm apps dont work according to bliss os developer)
Octopus doesnt even open in android x86, it crashes, how can you activate root mode?
 
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Mr_Kat

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@ilhan He havent read anything, the bliss os xda thread, and he is also like dante (dante says chrome os is arm and android x86 combination)
Phoenix os doesnt use octopus in root mode, it has the keymapper integrated to system ui, decompile and reverse engineer framewaorks and you will understand. Many people think its the game helper apk or octopus which is keymapper, but its only a switch.
Octopus performance is slow and laggy because it isnt integrated into system ui like phoenix os which is high performance, darkmatter developers would have already done it if they could.
Bliss os android 10 doesnt have arm support, the bliss os developer always keep shouting at noobs who dont read the post and keep saying these- their games dont work, arm not working, and no keymapper.
Android 11 has no arm support, In fact no android version has arm support, google dont provide any arm translation in stock AOSP. Its the amazing android x86 developers who take houdini native bridge from intel and integrate it to android x86.
Bliss OS 14 based on android 11 needs a lot more work, for example only kernel 5.8 works with it
It doesnt use houdini, it uses the new arm translator from android studio images, some arm apps dont work according to bliss os developer)
Octopus doesnt even open in android x86, it crashes, how can you activate root mode?
According to a bliss OS developer, bliss OS has hudini arm emulation taken from Chromium OS.

And Google has said in a official post that "x86 version of Android 11" will have a native arm emulation by Google Devs.
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And I was wrong about octopus. (Maybe)

(Maybe) Even in root mode it copies the game to seperate virtual location.


But how bout DecaPro keymapper from prime OS ?

I talked to one of their developers, he said that they abandoned the Prime OS project because they wanted to focus on "parenting control" apps.

He said that they want to sell its source to "potential customers" and maybe give them a update or two.

Maybe its Time for us to become the "potential customer"

+ Its made in India 🇮🇳
 
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İlhan

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According to a bliss OS developer, bliss OS has hudini arm emulation taken from Chromium OS.

And Google has said in a official post that "x86 version of Android 11" will have a native arm emulation by Google Devs.
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And I was wrong about octopus. (Maybe)

(Maybe) Even in root mode it copies the game to seperate virtual location.


But how bout DecaPro keymapper from prime OS ?

I talked to one of their developers, he said that they abandoned the Prime OS project because they wanted to focus on "parenting control" apps.

He said that they want to sell its source to "potential customers" and maybe give them a update or two.

Maybe its Time for us to become the "potential customer"

+ Its made in India 🇮🇳
Glad you understood the situation about octupus.

BTW primeos official website down a days ago. (reported by @Ahmad Moemen )
 

xtttt

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According to a bliss OS developer, bliss OS has hudini arm emulation taken from Chromium OS.

And Google has said in a official post that "x86 version of Android 11" will have a native arm emulation by Google Devs.
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==×===×==×===×==×===×==×===×==

And I was wrong about octopus. (Maybe)

(Maybe) Even in root mode it copies the game to seperate virtual location.


But how bout DecaPro keymapper from prime OS ?

I talked to one of their developers, he said that they abandoned the Prime OS project because they wanted to focus on "parenting control" apps.

He said that they want to sell its source to "potential customers" and maybe give them a update or two.

Maybe its Time for us to become the "potential customer"

+ Its made in India 🇮🇳
Google gave arm support for android 11 only in android studio images. Not in the operating system, Bliss OS developer took arm translator from android studio and put in his builds (Bliss OS 14). Yeah they took houdini from chrome os but that's in bliss os 11 pie, so far no arm emulation in bliss os 12
Bliss os 11 and 14 or android 9 and 11 have arm emulation, bliss os 12 aka android 10 Q doesn't, even Intel and Google didn't got arm emulation to work in Android 10 (also the biggest release in Android) Android 10 security features are incompatible with some software like GLtools, Houdini etc
 

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